Sparks of AGI, Jagged Frontiers, AI forms "Internal Models" and the Dark Forest Hypothesis...

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TIMELINE
00:00:00 Ants vs Artificial Super-Intelligence analogy
00:01:17 Wes’s first AI “aha” moment – ChatGPT & hide-and-seek agents
00:05:59 GPT-4 and the “Sparks of AGI” paper
00:08:12 Human ego: learners vs programs
00:14:26 Meaning, hardship & The Matrix analogy
00:24:00 Scaling laws & Grok’s Colossus data center
00:27:04 Hidden mental models in LLMs (Athel GPT)
00:30:32 AlphaFold & step-function intelligence
00:39:50 Fermi paradox & digital transcendence
00:47:00 Gene drives and engineered ecosystems
00:58:05 Consciousness, ethics & AI pain


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